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It looks like Borland could not find a buyer for their IDE division, and they've released a new Eclipse-based version of Java IDE - JBuilder 2007. They will TRY TO SELL different version of this product, and the Enterprise Edition costs $1999 (?!). They must be crazy. For only two grand it offers "velocity with Visual EJB and web services GUIs, provides balance, enabling management of complex projects across locations with P2P and TeamInsight, and gives organizations confidence to develop with open source tools and plug-ins". This is not even funny.
The only reason Joe Shmo, the CIO of an enterprise Java shop might purchase this product from Borlad is that Joe plays golf with one of the Borland Executives and wants to do him/her a favor. I personally do not even have time to try it even if they'd given it to me for free.
Borland used to produce the best Java IDE several years ago. But the world is different now. Get real guys.
I don't get the pricing either.
Well, have you actually looked at the pricing? There is a free version
coming, there is a version for a couple of hundred bucks, another one
around the $700 mark I think, and then the big one.
Malcolm, I am comparing apples to apples - you can get Eclipse with WTP for
free with great tools for enterprise development. Netbeans is also free. An
excellent enterprise grade IDE IntelliJ IDEA cost $500. Unless JBuilder
2007 has voice activated enterprise development, it's plain stupid to
charge $2000 for this product. If they look at another overpriced monster
called WSAD, too bad. IBM is not in the software business anymore and can
survive without selling WSAD, while for Borland it's the mainstream
product.
Unfortunately for Borland, the era in which they prospered has passed.
Please exit gracefully...
Fair enough, but it seems difficult to compare apples to apples when you
haven't seen this particular apple (ok, I know, I've stretched that
metaphor too far). They MIGHT have voice activated enterprise development,
or something else that makes you happy to pay the price. Dismissing
something as too expensive without knowing the value it brings, is just as
bad as all those people who used to dismiss Eclipse as a toy without having
used it.
I am checking it out right now.
It does come with together (uml roundtrip tool) and optimizeit profiler.
two expensive tools.
JBuilder 2007 plugin for eclipse is is now developed by CodeGear a
subsidiary of Borland, the plugin comes with a bunch of other plugins that
will be supported by Codegear. Some of these plugins include PMD, FindBugs,
Maven 2 etc and they also incorporate opimizitit a profiling tool with the
JBuilder plugin. While it is an expensive tool it does provide easy web
service, Spring, Hibernate and Struts development. Currently, the only
plugin that I can compare to JBuilder is MyEclipse and MyEclipse comes with
an annual subscription of $30. I haven't used WTP so I can't comment on it.
The price is not that bad if you consider the fact that you get a full
version of TogetherJ and OptimizeIt, each cost more than the $2000.
Actually we already ordered TogetherJ when this offer came along... which
was reason enough to cancel the order and order Jbuilder instead. so it was
very nice timeing for us ;)
Michael, I'd accept your argument if there was an option to buy an
enterprise edition without TogetherJ and Optimize it for, say $200. But
this is not the case.
Big fan of JBuilder from version 4 (1999) through JB2006. With 2006, they
finally cleaned up the annoyances in the build process. One button builds
all my EJB and WAR files. Right click on EJB and pick Deploy and it's
deployed. Do this in JB2007? NO, my app server is no longer supported.
Borland says I can write Ant scripts to get functionality back. Huh?!?
How about I just dump your $2000 piece of GARBAGE. I HATE ECLIPSE!!!!
