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Why Open Source training is so expensive?

posted Saturday, 7 January 2006
I decided to sign up for  JBoss, Hibernate and Spring training classes and checked the prices offered by  the vendors of these products.

Let’s  go to Hibernate.org.

Four days of JBoss training would cost me:
in New York $3250, in London 2150 pounds, in Paris 2500 euros,

I found the great deal: in Cape Town the early bird tuition is only $1600 for four days of JBoss! Check the prices for the air tickets, and kill two birds with one stone: visit South Africa and learn the basics of JBoss.

Two days of Hibernate training would cost me:
in New York $2250, in London on January 24-25 it’s $2600!!! Hey guys, come to New York. Everything is dirt cheap in America! The English language will be a little weird to your ear, but you’ll  visit New York in addition to learning Hibernate!

In Paris, they need three days to teach Hibernate and charge 1495 euros for this.  Are Parisians slow learners? Just kidding, I love Paris!

Now let’s look at the “Spring Framework from the source” at springframework.com.

Four days of training in London in February will cost you 1990 pounds. In Norway, the same course (after converting the currency) will cost you $3667. But if you’ll register by January 20, you’ll save $600. Sweet, isn’t it?

So $9000 and two weeks later,  I can become a junior JBoss, Hibernate and Spring developer.  I wonder how much such training costs in India?  I wonder if I'll be better off flying for two weeks to India  to learn these tools and visit this beautiful country?  Do not be surprised if one day such trips for  software training will become a routine procedure.

These “open source” prices are ridiculous. I wonder what’s the rationale behind setting the prices that high?

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1. robin left...
Saturday, 7 January 2006 10:52 am

I agree with Yakov on this. I was just checking the prices for learning the Red hat linux and training courses for RHCE(Red Hat Certified Engineer) . Its just crazy . Its just ridiculous. How different are these guys from Microsoft(I am not a Microsoft supporter,infact I work on Open Source platforms myself) , its just that they keep marketing themselves as holy "Open Source Vendors" and then charge so much for their training and support. I really look forward to going to India for getting training for RHCE or RHCT(certified Technician) sometime soon,if things just keep going like this.


2. Solveig Haugland left...
Sunday, 8 January 2006 10:51 am :: http://openoffice.blogs.com

Those prices are maybe 20% or 30% higher than prices Sun charged when I worked for Sun Educational Services. I think the prices are high for the same general reason that calculators used to cost $50. When you don't sell a lot of something, you need to charge a lot for it in order to make a living.

With more students per class, and demand for more classes, and possibly with more organizations competing to offer those classes, prices will come down.

~ Solveig


3. Phyo left...
Wednesday, 11 January 2006 4:49 am

Totally agree. Infact, these trainings are conducting only a few days(like 3 to 4 days) and I don't think such a short time won't transform a person to be well versed in that particular technology. In the end, that person still have to refer to Documentation and User manuals. So just save the money and keep on reading the documentation.


4. Another Yaakov left...
Thursday, 19 January 2006 7:41 pm

Yes - In fact, I think that every company and consultant should give away their services if the work done involves an Open Source platform. But wait - we're giving away the software, now we're giving away the services also. Can somebody please tell me how we pay the rent?


5. I Agree left...
Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:50 am

How many people are even involved in these seminars anyway. Say there's three people involved, each student pays $1000, there has to be atleast 20 students (probably more) that's $20,000 for three people which is a little more than $6,500 per seminar. Let's say they take it easy and do one seminar a month. They are making more than $75,000 each, per year, on seminars alone. That just doesn't seem fair, necessary or friendly to the open-source way of doing things.


6. Yakov Fain left...
Wednesday, 1 February 2006 6:40 am

Your math is not correct. These days they can only dream of 20 students. Realistic number is 5-7 and not every month. Also, there are other expenses, i.e. food, travel expenses, etc.


7. wendyd left...
Wednesday, 1 February 2006 7:23 am :: http://www.skillsmatter.com

Hi guys, Providing a course does not only involve the teachers time. First a lot of time and investment goes into the development of the courseware. This is an upfront investment and needs to be earned back over time. Secondly there is the trainers time and not just for the time he or she is delivering the course. A trainer needs to have the experience to deliver the course but will also be properly certified to deliver the course (which ussually involves him or her attending the course, preparation time, and a co-teach together with another trainer to ensure he can teach the course to high standards). Further more, trainers need to keep themselves continuously up to speed with all the new developments etc, which is at least 30% of their time. Then there is the course printing, provison of books, lunches, travel etc. A big part of the revenue will go to the training room and machines as well. People ussually prefer their courses to be in central places, easy to reach and with some fun things in the vicinity. And office space in such central places, say Central London, ain't cheap. Finally, a sales & marketing department needs to be funded to ensure people know the course is running and can register for it. Off course there are also the other fixed costs every company needs to cover, such as accountants, insurances, legal, etc etc. This is why courses cost the money they do.